This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. We center readers in everything we do, informing–and engaging–Mississippians through reporting, podcasts, events and online communities. Are we prepared to take down statues of Victoria, Ruskin, Disraeli, Churchill and countless others who supported imperialism? I don’t think we do. If you are concerned about what is happening in your locality I urge you to write to the relevant authorities. Just one of Mississippi’s four congressmen — Democratic Rep. Bennie Thompson — voted to pass the House spending proposal, which included the removal of the statues, last month. Some of Brighton’s most important families invested in the slave plantations (there were 28 households that were beneficiaries from the compensation pay-out in the 1830s). Denton County’s monument, in the courthouse square since 1918, was completely removed Thursday. Will you invest in the future of independent journalism in Mississippi? Espy, Hyde-Smith’s 2020 Senate opponent, is centering his campaign strategy around race during the national movement. In Richmond, Va., there's a place called Monument Avenue. Those who advocate the removal of memorials often have little background in understanding history and have latched on to a snippet of information about someone, usually to do with slavery. I consider the attempts to remove such statues as an attempt to erase from history those elements which we find unpalatable, and to try and impose contemporary morality on past events and people which absolutely inappropriate. “Sen. Virginia's capital, Richmond, became a battleground in the monument debate after Gov. Before we rush to appear to be doing the right thing, do we have a full enough understanding of the nature of empire and slavery, and the context in which they existed? Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, Proudly powered by Newspack by Automattic. You can’t edit our stories, except to reflect relative changes in time, location and editorial style. He is president of the Mississippi Capitol Press Corps Association and works with the Mississippi State University Stennis Institute to organize press luncheons. In my letters to Councillors and the local MP I have urged them to read my essay on this website about the. Please reload the page and try again. How to best depict the history of our nation is always up for debate, but it is not the role of Congress to dictate to states which statues should be placed in the Capitol.”. “Any state, including Mississippi, can avail itself to that process if it wants to exchange statues. Are you going to take down every monument and memorial  associated with imperialism including all the war memorials, including those from WW1 and WW2 which according to many historians were fought to defend the empire? “It would be a mistake for Congress to remove statues placed in the U.S. Capitol by Mississippi or any state,” Wicker said in June. I have attached two of my essays from my website www.britishempire.me.uk, one on the importance of studying history and the second on the removal of the statue of Rhodes on Oriel College. That debate led to Mississippi removing its 126-year-old state flag, which featured the Confederate battle emblem in its design. Bobby Harrison, Mississippi Today’s senior capitol reporter, covers politics, government and the Mississippi State Legislature. They include statues of Victoria, Rhodes and Gladstone. I say this because there was hardly an area of Britain that did not benefit from the pay-out of compensation in the 1830s. The Onion looks at the pros and cons of removing historical statues. In the last couple of days, a host of statues and memorials have come under attack. Are we also aware of the efforts Britain went to after 1807 to eradicate slavery around the world? “In my view, such an overreach would be counterproductive to the healthy conversations on race happening across the country. The issue of removing Confederate emblems and monuments has been hotly debated after the deaths of George Floyd and other Black Americans at the hands of police sparked national protests about racial inequality in government. There was an error and we couldn't process your subscription. If you’re not able to add the byline, please include a line at the top of the story that reads: “This story was originally published by Mississippi Today” and include our website, You cannot republish our editorial cartoons, photographs, illustrations or graphics without specific permission (contact our managing editor. Statues are part of our historic streetscape and reflect the develoment of our villages and towns and the people who lived there. But Lee is not the same as Washington. Republican Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi’s senior senator, offered similar views as Hyde-Smith when asked about the statues earlier this year. Since retirement from teaching history to 11-18 year olds in 2008 I have spent a lot of my time writing articles and giving talks on the subject of the British Empire in order to raise people’s understanding of the impact the Empire had on the world in which we live. U.S. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith, facing a November election challenge from Democrat Mike Espy, could find herself in the middle of a national debate over whether Congress should mandate the removal of Confederate statues from the U.S. Capitol. Bernstein compares memorialized Confederate figures, such as Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson, to slave-owning presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, as well as British colonialists Cecil Rhodes and Winston Churchill. Let us instead of renaming streets and knocking down statues focus on what we can do to improve our understanding of empires and slavery, and work to improve social justice and the promotion of equal opportunities in our society. An overwhelming 85 percent of Democrats back the move, and just 11 percent are against it. Whoops! See the clip on U tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBicneQAkNI. The current debate about removing statues. The call for statues to be removed isn’t unprecedented. On July 22, 2020, in the midst of the George Floyd protests, the U.S. House of Representatives voted 305-113 to remove a bust of Chief Justice Roger B. Taney (as well as statues honoring figures who were part of the Confederacy during the Civil War) from the U.S. Capitol and replace it with a bust of Justice Thurgood Marshall. Colston was a 17th-century slave trader. David Greene talks to Manisha Sinha, professor of American history at the University of Connecticut, about the recent toppling of non-Confederate statues like those of George Washington. In Brighton we have Bishop Hannington Church. Mississippi is the only state in the nation that displays two statues of Confederates: Jefferson Davis and James Zachariah George. Churchill has been considered a racist who opposed independence for India. For example, Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently called for the removal of 11 Confederate statues from the U.S. Capitol. What was the importance of India to the British Empire. Kellie Meyer, “Debate over Removing Confederate Statues on Capitol Hill,” Gray TV (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “A Historian Explains Why Trump’s Defense of Confederate Statues Doesn’t Make Any Sense,” ATTN: Video (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “Listen at 0:00:50,” BBC World Service Radio Newsday (August 17, 2017) Following the protests and death of George Floyd, the governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, has promised to remove the Confederate statues on Monument Avenue. Quoting Donald Trump, Bernstein asks: “Where does it stop?,” a question Hays echoes. Here in Brighton & Hove,  the Leader of the Council wants to investigate all memorials and statues in the city to ensure that they fit in with what she deems contemporary values. The Onion looks at the pros and cons of removing historical statues. We believe that an informed Mississippi is a better Mississippi. Founded in 2016 as the state’s first nonprofit, nonpartisan newsroom, Mississippi Today’s roots in Capitol coverage have grown to encompass a myriad of beats beyond politics and policy, including education, public health, justice, environment, equity, and, yes, sports. As a nonprofit newsroom, we rely on donations from readers to power our work. Are you going to take down everything from the past 400 years and take down the statue of every monarch who presided over the British Empire? We prefer “Author Name, Mississippi Today” in the byline. “There are clear rules and procedures set for the designation, receipt, and placement of statues in the United States Capitol,” Hyde-Smith said last month. In 1864, Congress authorized each state to donate and display two statues at the Capitol of citizens “illustrious for their historic renown or for distinguished civic or military services.”. Hannington, who was killed in east Africa, believed in the ‘Mission to Civilise’. People calling for the fall of a statue and everyone else falling over each other to be on the bandwagon without any proper discussion of the issues. On Aug. 16, 1865, 152 years before the most recent debate over memorializing Confederate statues, writers for The Times published this article, advocating the … When asked about the recent efforts to remove statues from the U.S. Capitol, Hyde-Smith said that the fate of the statues should be decided by individual states and not the federal government. The fervour to remove the Rhodes statue started unsuccessfully in 2016, but the campaign has been reignited after the toppling and dumping of the Edward Colston 18-foot bronze statue in the River Avon in Bristol on Sunday. The police killing of George Floyd sparked widespread protests and reignited efforts across the U.S. to remove Confederate and other statues viewed as symbols of slavery and racism. He lost support as the jingoists of the late c19th turned against him. by Bobby Harrison, Mississippi Today August 11, 2020. Firstly, Thank you for accepting the debate. Kellie Meyer, “Debate over Removing Confederate Statues on Capitol Hill,” Gray TV (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “A Historian Explains Why Trump’s Defense of Confederate Statues Doesn’t Make Any Sense,” ATTN: Video (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “Listen at 0:00:50,” BBC World Service Radio Newsday (August 17, 2017) Mississippians are tired of Sen. Hyde-Smith’s continued preoccupation with keeping our state in the past, and they are ready to turn the page and move forward.”. Hyde-Smith is the chairwoman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee that considers and passes the spending bills to fund the legislative branch, meaning her subcommittee will have to consider the House measure. Editorial cartoons and photo essays are not included under the Creative Commons license and therefore do not have the "Republish This Story" button option. If we are to debate whether or not Serra and Columbus still deserve a place in the American pantheon, let us debate the issue, not destroy the statues. Until yesterday, when you visited Monument Avenue, you would find a statue of the … Neither man was born in Mississippi. Should we rename the church? Under federal law, state governments are solely responsible for selecting and replacing the statues that represent their states.”. While campaigning at Mississippi State University, she also said the votes from people at some other universities in the state should be suppressed. We live in a country in which gaps between rich and poor are far too big, where zero hours contracts keep people in poverty, and where class and privilege are still far too important. That means learning about the British Empire and other empires -including the Roman Empire and African empires- and the role of slavery in societies past and present, including Indian  indentured labour and what the British did to eradicate slavery throughout the world after 1807. You have to credit Mississippi Today. Davis was a slaveowner and president of the Confederacy, and George was a lead architect of the 1890 state Constitution that stripped voting rights from nearly 150,000 Black Mississippians. There is little meaningful debate on the very real questions that ought to be asked and taught. The debate over the UK’s historic monuments and statues has played out in online petitions, with tens of thousands calling to remove or keep them. If you were to take down statues, what criteria would you  choose? To use this website you must enable JavaScript. Everything associated with imperialism? Confederate Statue Removals Controversy refers to the debate surrounding the removal of statues honoring the Confederate States of America, the group of states which seceded from the United States of America in the 1860s, leading to the American Civil War. I can't speak for all 1500 Confederate statues and monuments scattered across the South, But where I live in North Carolina the statues were erected in 1924 by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, A group that also has ties to the construction of monuments in honor of the KKK. To learn more about our cartoon syndication services. https://www.c-span.org/video/?473704-1/debating-removing-monuments Check out the online debate Statue removal. Hyde-Smith respects the work of her House counterparts, but will continue to work with her Senate colleagues on a Senate legislative branch bill,” said Hyde-Smith spokesman Chris Gallegos. The current debate about removing statues and renaming streets In the last couple of days, a host of statues and memorials have come under attack. The City of London on Thursday approved the removal from its ceremonial Guildhall home of statues of two figures that symbolise the financial sector's historic role in slavery. Our stories may appear on pages with ads, but not ads specifically sold against our stories. The American Museum of Natural History in New York City has announced that it will remove a prominent statue of President Theodore Roosevelt from its … How about with people who took up arm… The move, voted through by the City’s elected representatives, is part of a wider debate over how Britain remembers and represents its history, sparked by Will we be considering removal of his Blue Plaque? The removal in recent years of several monuments depicting Confederate leaders and other controversial historical figures by both politicians and unsanctioned activists have generated debate over whether their removal is justified. “Mississippi is unfortunately represented by Jefferson Davis and J.Z. Last month, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives passed a spending measure for the legislative branch that would remove 14 statues of Confederates and others “with unambiguous records of racial intolerance” from the Capitol building. Gladsone started life as a Tory opposing he reforms of the 1830s including the abolition of slavery and the Factory Acts but he went on to become the personificationof liberalism in Victorian society. Yet again we are discussing statues and colonialism as if it only concerned a few Victorians, and yet again the level of debate is derisory. LONDON – The City of London on Thursday approved the removal from its ceremonial Guildhall home of statues of two figures that symbolize the financial sector’s historic role in slavery. What they fail to understasnd is that people are complex characters and have nuanced characters. The police killing of George Floyd sparked widespread protests and reignited efforts across the U.S. to remove Confederate and other statues viewed as symbols of slavery and racism. BBC debate erupts as R5 guest demands 'offensive' statues of UK monarchs are torn down BBC Radio 5 guests Martin Daubney and Shakeena Johnson … Improving our understanding of the past and bringing about a more equal society is the issue not renaming streets. The bill called for removal of Taney's bust within 30 days after the law's passage. The removal in recent years of several monuments depicting Confederate leaders and other controversial historical figures by both politicians and unsanctioned activists have generated debate over whether their removal is justified. In several cities, these tributes have been vandalized or torn down by protestors or removed by public officials. The Mississippi statues were placed in 1931 after they were approved by the state Legislature in 1924. People’s lives were complex. Removing statues is a slippery slope that could lead to the brash removal of monuments to any slightly problematic person. On June 4, many Black Lives Matter protesters gathered around the famous statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee in Richmond, Virginia. Any web site our stories appear on must include a contact for your organization. Republican Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi’s senior senator, offered similar views as Hyde-Smith when asked about the statues earlier this year. During the protests following the death of George Floyd in the summer of 2020, many Confederate statues were damaged or toppled, as were statues of Presidents George Washington , Thomas Jefferson , and Ulysses S. Grant . Kelly is pro-statue … Are you aware that much of the money used to pay for the building of the London - Brighton railway came from the compensation paid out to slave plantation owners? The media confine their coverage to discussing statues and street names, and how evil the Empire was. In Britain, the Rhodes Must Fall campaign hit the headlines when it demanded the removal of the statue of Cecil Rhodes from Oxford’s Oriel College, of which he was a leading benefactor, because of his colonialism. The protests turned violent, and a counterdemonstrator was killed. Bobby has a bachelor's in American Studies from the University of Southern Mississippi and has received multiple awards from the Mississippi Press Association, including the Bill Minor Best Investigative/In-depth Reporting and Best Commentary Column. Be the first to know about Mississippi news: U.S. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith, facing a November election challenge from Democrat Mike Espy, could find herself in the middle of a national debate over whether Congress should mandate the removal of Confederate statues from the U.S. Capitol. During her 2018 special election against Espy — where both were vying to replace long-time Sen. Thad Cochran who resigned for health reasons — Hyde-Smith created controversy by saying she would sit on the front row of a hanging if invited by a particular supporter whom she was praising. That bill, along with more than a dozen others in the past 10 years, died in committee. He also writes a weekly news analysis which is co-published in newspapers statewide. The protests at the Confederate capital was focused on the removal of statues on Monument Avenue. In several recent years, lawmakers in the Mississippi Legislature have proposed bills to replace the state’s statues at the U.S. Capitol. And what about our very own Queen who paid homage to Rhodes in what was described as a pilgrimage in 1947? He argues that all have complicated histories, all did bad as well as good, and therefore there is no logical reason to remove statues of some but not others. “Sen. This article first appeared on Mississippi Today and is republished here under a Creative Commons license. The first category includes the use of legal and legislative means of removing statuary, and has focused primarily on Civil War-era figures (such as Confederate generals and the Emancipation Statue in Washington, D.C.) and Christopher Columbus (19 memorials to the … Listen Panel begins debate on removing statues from MN Capitol Two ropes are tied around the neck of a Christopher Columbus statue before a group of … Kellie Meyer, “Debate over Removing Confederate Statues on Capitol Hill,” Gray TV (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “A Historian Explains Why Trump’s Defense of Confederate Statues Doesn’t Make Any Sense,” ATTN: Video (August 17, 2017) James Grossman, “Listen at 0:00:50,” BBC World Service Radio Newsday (August 17, 2017) … Those that opposed their removal are 52% from Southern states and 64% from rural areas. If you share our stories on social media, please tag us in your posts using. In several cities, these tributes have been vandalized or torn down by protestors or removed by public officials. Look for the "Republish This Story" button underneath each story. Republican Congressmen Trent Kelly, Michael Guest and Steven Palazzo voted against the measure. Do those who are condemning Gladstone have a full understanding of the nuances of his life? Please check his channel out. In the 2018 Senate special election, photos surfaced of Hyde-Smith in Confederate memorabilia at Davis’ home Beauvoir, which is now a private museum operated by the Sons of Confederate Veterans on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. There has also been a long campaign to remove a statue of Cecil Rhodes, a 19th Century businessman and politician in southern Africa, from Oxford University. I am totally against  the removal of statues of people like Gladstone and Cecil Rhodes, and the renaming of streets for the following reasons. Gladstone also supported Home Rule for Ireland and his party split as a result. Support for removing Confederate statues is heavily split by party, based on the poll. The movement against him is part of a wider drive to … The current debate about removing statues and renaming streets. Therefore, argue against removing statues to Washington, insist there’s no way to do one without the other, and declare Confederate monuments defended. As a member of the Mississippi state Senate, Hyde-Smith sponsored legislation to have a highway in Mississippi named after Davis. For too long we have found the British Empire unpalatable and the tendency has been not to discuss it as it offends our sensibilities. She said at the time she was only joking. Debating the Confederate monuments ... How would the goals and philosophy of the Rev. He opposed imperialism and the annexations of Disraeli, thought politics should be based on morality and not materialism, and supported Home Rule for Ireland and independence for Italy. A native of Laurel, Bobby joined our team June 2018 after working for the North Mississippi Daily Journal in Tupelo since 1984. One fought for America, the other against it. “In my view, such an overreach would be counterproductive to the healthy conversations on race happening across the country. I have written the following letter to her and to my local MP, Caroline Lucas. They include statues of Victoria, Rhodes and Gladstone. Two of the statues include Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens, the president and vice president of the Confederate States of America. Call for removal of Confederate statues sparks debates in North Texas communities Eston Williams, a 71-year-old retired reverend in Kaufman County, … This debate occurred on DylanBurnsTV. Nearly a year ago, white nationalists gathered in Charlottesville, Va., to protest the removal of a Confederate statue. You can only publish select stories individually — not as a collection. Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under a Creative Commons license. Protests against the removal of a statue of Confederate general Robert E Lee in Charlottesville turned violent on August 12, when white supremacists clashed … Take Gladstone who has become a target for criticism on the basis of his father receiving money from that paid out as compensation after the abolition of slavery. Martin Luther King Jr. square with the current rush to remove offending Civil War statues? Just prior to that dramatic conclusion, though, Kelly and Braunwyn debate removing statues of historic figures with questionable human rights records. To republish online, simply click the button, copy the html code and paste into your Content Management System (CMS). The debate for removing statues and renaming buildings has reignited in the wake of protests surrounding racial injustices and police brutality. Gladstone was an anti-imperialist and opposed Disraeli’s annexations although he was persuaded to launch the expedition to rescue Gordon. William Gladstone, whose statues have come under attack. “It would be a mistake for Congress to remove statues placed in the U.S. Capitol by Mississippi or any state,” Wicker said in June. Activists are campaigning for a statue of Cecil Rhodes to be removed from an Oxford college. Of those who support the idea in the latest poll, 84% are Black, 58% are Hispanic and 44% are white. Empires were the norm for centuries. Hyde-Smith is refusing to use her power to remove Confederate statues from the U.S. Capitol, including two from our state of Mississippi,” Espy said in a statement. 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